vlog#8 Part one of the restoration of an old Silvertone artchtop

okay so what we have here today is a silvertone which is going to require a bit of repair I bought this on eBay and bit of a split on the back all the pictures were very clear on the eBay so there's nothing here that I didn't really expect I mean that's gonna fix up fine is that this is a funny little instrument because it it was never an expensive guitar this was always a cheap kind of department store guitar and you can even see here the the markers the fret markers paint it on, that's very classy you can actually see a bit of spray marks on the outside the Neck appears to be reasonable I won't really know until i string it up I don't think there was any truss rods in these, so how would you get to it? well there are there's no it's no access yeah that's right yeah well you could...stick put something up here I suppose but there's no trust rod but I think it'll be okay this is not an instrument I expect to play you know really fast low action this will be a bit of a fun kind of archtop just to busk with or something like that it's got potential it's quite, quite nice just needs a good cleanup and reglue of some of the loose veneer this this happens quite often on old guitars that the veneer cracks open like that yeah so we'll do a detailed repair on that and I'll video that as well okay so it also came at the the original pick guard that goes on there you know I'm not quite sure I think I'm thinking fifties yeah the headstock I think it's a 58 I'll do some more research now that you know now that I actually have it here is not any serial numbers there's something stamped inside there, and this is the bridge, if memory serves me arrived on the pictures that's on eBay the bridge is broken but I have another bridge like this so that piece is still perfectly okay that's the piece cover pickguard so the actual the actual bridge assembly here with is just a piece of wood really has cracked so I can are then I'll are the remake one which is relatively easy its just a timber or I think I have one that will probably fit on them so it's got two little adjustment screws there basically just sits under the strings there so that's the unpacking and initial inspection the other thing which are supposed to be.... missing it's missing one of the toot wheels there but again I think I've got one of those sitting in the box somewhere so that's not really a drama all the buttons are here so bit clean.. bit of a set up.. a bit of glue bit of patience got a fun.. little bit of a rescue. I'm not gonna say it's gonna sound great but I reckon it'll be fun to play it's kind of one of those things you could just kind of have fun with....... so I'm just actually is warming the knife a little bit on there on there there some high-tech stuff there I don't know what else to do use an iron for really there is there is no other use god knows why you would want to iron clothes... and that didn't that's kind of slides through.. that was quite effective and easy so that's coming up now now this this is this funny old guitar here this is not a binding again it's painted on.. right yeah okay so another instrument if you try and do this it could be a bit more complicated you have to pull the binding off first yeah which is kind of like a ribbon of place here sometimes timber.. usually a plastic ribbon and again it's not the end of the world, if you can get it off without too much damage then you can just glue it back on again with a bit of sticky tape holding it in place while that's drying, so I've done that too it's not a big drama but in this case it is just painted on funny old clunker in the sense that it was made to a budget yeah and but you know the the binding on the outside of the guitar doesn't really do anything for the sound mm-hmm so it doesn't mean that it's gonna sound any better or worse by not having a binding mm-hmm that's right so if they were making a good guitar cheaper by just painting the binding on I think that probably you know did the right call because I'd rather have a guitar that sounds good with the painted on binding then wonder the plastic binding that sounds like "shit" well aesthetics are very important to some people but really this is the back of the guitar what was the painted on the front too.. careful when you do this you know like you don't want to be having a guitar no finger, safety first like Django.. you might be the exception see there"new crack?" oh no that was already there hey sure of it so to see it's come apart pretty easy actually know that even I'm not even sure if the heat is having much effect on the glue or just making me feel better about it.. yeah hey yeah there you go and that's what the in sort of a you see here that the bracing is no longer attached. even just one here's come loose the only way we could have fixed that really was to take the top off there's no way we could have been able to glue that in-situ and you can see here the glue is really fibrous "yea" powdery as it's coming apart is there any kind of serial number we can look at here maybe try and date it there is a serial number here um I looked it up but it looks like it's a 1962 60 - yeah that's a 62 that h612 - I think it's the model number in the three oh nine three is probably the serial number as such hmm okay well um yeah so there you have it coming looks like the inside of a guitar these these are these have been glued quite well yeah different kinda gluey same do that used over there that's the thing with the guitars that were made back in the day by "horse glue" there would have used Hoof glue yeah so this is this is real guitar glue where as when you buy a cheap instrument today it can be anything.. I remember buying one to pull apart for fun that used fiver glass.. yeah so polyester resin that's glued together with which render it completely useless really you couldn't do anything to it so at least here they have used.. although it's all then bite crackle here it is made from the right stuff this instrument isn't it's not beyond repair this is wise it's quite workable yes even with these splits in the in the back panel this is gonna come up beautiful yes this is easily fixed I might put a bit of glue on these cracks while the back is off yep probably I'm gluing this down yes coming loose piece of my and I could would replace that with a piece of timber which has got a little bit more interesting characteristics you put some maple there or something yes probably okay that's certainly nicely aged yeah its not kind of do anything unexpected suddenly I think I'll just go with what's there and it's gonna glue this back on acid was so I'll glue that down glue this down put a bit of glue in the cracks here and then when that's dry and set then we will just reassemble it necessarily I'll run some glue all the way around the edge here reinforce it a little just just because I can just because it's open you know and I said this glue is very brittle so there could be some tiny little crack settles cause vibration and things like that so by pouring and putting a little glue in and massaging it all the way around it will just seal that up and lock it I think that some it's not too bad considering its what 55 how old is it be old yeah rabbits fluff "laughs" best imported from America sold on eBay it's a collector's item there you go you can place you offer us now yeah we're back ok so here's an interesting thing um and I didn't know this until I actually pulled it apart this thing is made from solid timber it's not made from ply.. I just kind of assumed cheap instrument back in a stay they would have just hammered it together from something from plywood that is not the case this is solid the back is solid the sides are solid full and the front is made from solid wood and I'd say it's it's probably spruce or something this (Maple) is this looks like spruce certainly at the back here and the front well it could be a different cut of spruce its a little bit the darker (still maple) Hey look I'm getting I'm getting a little bit excited!! yeah look so probably as far as Tone wood guys it's probably a little richer than Ply well oh good guitars are made from from solid timber so that's that doesn't mean that all ply guitars are bad because I've got a few guitars which are made from ply and I've got a really nice tone a real nice sound but certainly being solid Timbers it opens up another possibility for it of the sound being quite good when it's back together so what I'm going to do now is it had a little crack running down here and a little crack down the back there so all I'm gonna do tonight is I'm gonna run some glue in there and just put some tape on and let that crack to stabilize then this just fell off basically there was hardly anything holding on then I'm gonna re glue this in situ my clamps are a little short to reach that at the moment so I have to think of a way of doing that so that'll be the next job this this is gonna be there yeah well as this is gluing that's gonna be pushing that open a little bit time to see how I how I do that I might just temporarily put a clamp on there so that so if I view that crack and then put this on this it's gonna crack open again because of the pressure so while that cracked loose I might actually just apply a little bit of pressure here so it gets a chance to dry where I want it to go so this is a fairly simple process glue this is just normal I would working glue not tomato sauce not sauce in this case ketchup or ketchup or whatever country you're in is it the same thing I think it's supposed to be the same thing isn't it they both got tomatoes in and you both have tomatoes in them so we kind of massage that into the crack blue yeah and with old instruments like this or anything called furniture all that kind of stuff before you position it in the final position topping this this wood is very thirsty so I like to let the glue sit there a bit and kind of suck into the timber so rather than kind of putting on clamping it straight away and then squeezing the blue back out of the join yeah that's right you let it sit there and suck into the timber a bit so that when you when you do put the tape on to stabilise or ever there there is still glue there because if you if you put the glue on and clamp it and then the the wood is so dry it and sucks the glue out of the crack again so you're not getting the best glue joint that you can yeah yeah don't have as much contact well that's right and you starving the glue joint because that the timber is so drawing so you can see here I'm just gently opening the crack a little bit and massaging the glue back in making sure that the timber gets gets a chance to really drink in that's sweet nectar or wood glue so I'm not talking or or see I'm just kind of like that you know suck in for a little bit then I'll wipe off the excess and I'll just basically put some masking tape to keep the joint together leave all this dry so we'll do that in a minute okay so I can see the glue is had a bit of a chance to just suck in now I'm just gonna wipe off some of the excess threes in a few minutes yes you want it's just a rag with a bit of water on it taking off the excess do the same off from this side don't they still glue into join there now I guess you can see when i push it together it's it's bleeding a little bit that's what we want so that's good so I'm gonna put the tape on I'm just drawing this back to the table stick and if this just standard wood glue PVA is nothing no special guitar luthier glue going on here not not in this case now I'm on my truth I don't actually have any at the moment but I can get some I might choose to reassemble it with who hoof or hide this this is not as something that you would ever want to take apart again so you don't need to use hoof glue here the whole idea with the using the animal glues the hoof and the hide glue is that with a little bit of a heat you can open it back up again which means you can then conduct further repairs and things like that of course like when you glue a fretboard on if you ever need to take the fretboard off it's really good if if you have the opportunity to .... can we I may need an extra hand it yep so if you just push against there just gonna put a little pressure on this crack by pushing it together in this direction push towards my hand yeah if in doubt add clamps.. well that's right yes so as I said before what I want to do here is well I feel a little bit more glue on the back here just to massage that into that into the crack again doesn't really matter if there's a little bit of excess glue because this is the inside so let's make sure that that's that crack is nicely filled with glue now this one here because cause of that quite a large gap there I want to to maybe put a bit of pressure on that one so that when we've come to glue this on its not changing the shape to much I'm putting a little bit more of you on the inside there again yeah yeah let's take some of the excess glue off simply because it serves no purpose if it's not near or in the in the glue join in the crack the glue really doesn't do anything so it's not point having it there you can see here again it's like the absorbed yeah it's like it's opened up a little bit flowing then you know you haven't really got any air bubbles oh yeah also I'm gonna put something underneath here just to that's the weight of that top against that clamp gives enough pressure gives enough pressure to close that gap up so this couple little clamp just across the crack there so that it dries flat and we don't have a step in it so now just to inspect that looks pretty good the glue is in there it's not starving out too much this is blue glue on the clamp there but that's okay I'm gonna sand this around the edge before I reassemble it anyway so I'm not concerned about that this one's looking quite good now it's got the glue is staying there so it's not disappearing and starting away so that's all we're doing tonight, tomorrow I'll be back in here all excited for the next stage.. I'll clean off a lot of the old glue bit off completely but just take off anything was just loose and then then start the process of gluing the top back on and largely that's gonna be smearing glue and putting tape all the way around so this this repair job that we're doing here requires next to no tools you'll notice so far all the views couple of clamps a broken kitchen knife glue a roll of sticky tape and a little rag so I can't see anything in this job which is not gonna require luthier tools and there's no expensive specialty tools or that's right I mean the clamps cost a little bit but I'm most most workshops have a couple of clamps kicking around yeah so as this it's gonna be I'm I'm excited it's gonna be great tomorrow

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